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    <title>Destination Linux - Episodes Tagged with “Rocco”</title>
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    <description>Destination Linux is a weekly show where Ryan, Jill, and guests share their passion for Linux and Open Source. Destination Linux is a show for all experience levels, whether you’re a beginner to Linux and Open Source or a long time user, this is the podcast for you. Destination Linux covers a wide range of topics from the latest news, discussions on Linux and Open Source, Linux distributions, Linux applications, security, privacy, AI, gaming on Linux, and unique in-depth interviews with Linux developers and leaders and much more! Destination Linux website https://deviantairwaves.com Become a Patron https://patreon.com/destinationlinux Buy Me a Coffee https://buymeacoffee.com/destinationlinux Merch https://shop.deviantairwaves.com EFF x Destination Linux https://eff.org/destinationlinux Sandfly Security https://sandfly.com/?utmsource=destinationlinux&amp;utmmedium=podcast&amp;utmcampaign=podcast&amp;utmcontent=player-page</description>
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    <itunes:summary>Destination Linux is a weekly show where Ryan, Jill, and guests share their passion for Linux and Open Source. Destination Linux is a show for all experience levels, whether you’re a beginner to Linux and Open Source or a long time user, this is the podcast for you. Destination Linux covers a wide range of topics from the latest news, discussions on Linux and Open Source, Linux distributions, Linux applications, security, privacy, AI, gaming on Linux, and unique in-depth interviews with Linux developers and leaders and much more! Destination Linux website https://deviantairwaves.com Become a Patron https://patreon.com/destinationlinux Buy Me a Coffee https://buymeacoffee.com/destinationlinux Merch https://shop.deviantairwaves.com EFF x Destination Linux https://eff.org/destinationlinux Sandfly Security https://sandfly.com/?utmsource=destinationlinux&amp;utmmedium=podcast&amp;utmcampaign=podcast&amp;utmcontent=player-page</itunes:summary>
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  <title>487: Destination Linux 487: Rocco Returns! AI Debates, Orion Browser Axed &amp; F‑Droid 2.0</title>
  <link>https://podcast.destinationlinux.org/487</link>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2026 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Rocco returns to Destination Linux for the second time this month! We dive into community feedback, the debate over AI‑generated code, the end of the Orion browser for Linux, the Netherlands’ Nix‑powered government desktop, Amazon blocking AI shopping agents, and more. A packed episode full of laughs, insights, and open‑source goodness.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:03:26</itunes:duration>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;In Destination Linux Episode 487, Ryan hosts an episode packed with open‑source news, community stories, and the triumphant return of &lt;strong&gt;Rocco&lt;/strong&gt;, bringing that classic Big Daddy Linux energy back to the show for the second time in a single month.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We kick things off with heartfelt community feedback from O.C. Supertoner, followed by a lively discussion about AI‑generated code and whether Linux users should embrace or reject LLM‑assisted development. Rocco shares his thoughts on the new Hylki email client for GNOME and the growing debate around AI contributions in open‑source projects.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Zeb covers the end of the Orion browser for Linux and the implications of Kagi open‑sourcing its codebase. He also dives into the Netherlands’ bold move to adopt a Nix‑based government desktop after sanctions disrupted ICC access to Microsoft services, plus Amazon blocking Meta’s AI shopping agent.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It’s a fun, fast‑moving episode full of laughs, insights, and the open‑source passion that makes Destination Linux feel like home.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;About The Show&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Destination Linux is a weekly show where Ryan, Jill, and guests share their passion for Linux and Open Source. Destination Linux is a show for all experience levels, whether you’re a beginner to Linux and Open Source or a long time user, this is the podcast for you. Destination Linux covers a wide range of topics from the latest news, discussions on Linux and Open Source, Linux distributions, Linux applications, security, privacy, AI, gaming on Linux, and unique in-depth interviews with Linux developers and leaders and much more!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Destination Linux website&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Become a Patron&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Sandfly Security&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;00:00:00 Welcome to Destination Linux&lt;br&gt;
00:01:50 Community Feedback&lt;br&gt;
00:09:15 Sponsored by Sandfly Security&lt;br&gt;
00:10:31 Thanks to Our Supporters&lt;br&gt;
00:12:32 Hylki Email Client&lt;br&gt;
00:44:07 Orion Browser for Linux Discontinued&lt;br&gt;
00:50:38 Dutch Government Goes Nix&lt;br&gt;
00:58:34 Amazon Blocks Meta's AI From Store&lt;br&gt;
01:00:23 Closing Thoughts&lt;/p&gt;

Linux #opensource #FOSS #podcast #security #privacy #AI #redhat #ubuntu #suse #opensuse #debian #SteamOS</description>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In Destination Linux Episode 487, Ryan hosts an episode packed with open‑source news, community stories, and the triumphant return of <strong>Rocco</strong>, bringing that classic Big Daddy Linux energy back to the show for the second time in a single month.</p>

<p>We kick things off with heartfelt community feedback from O.C. Supertoner, followed by a lively discussion about AI‑generated code and whether Linux users should embrace or reject LLM‑assisted development. Rocco shares his thoughts on the new Hylki email client for GNOME and the growing debate around AI contributions in open‑source projects.</p>

<p>Zeb covers the end of the Orion browser for Linux and the implications of Kagi open‑sourcing its codebase. He also dives into the Netherlands’ bold move to adopt a Nix‑based government desktop after sanctions disrupted ICC access to Microsoft services, plus Amazon blocking Meta’s AI shopping agent.</p>

<p>It’s a fun, fast‑moving episode full of laughs, insights, and the open‑source passion that makes Destination Linux feel like home.</p>

<p><strong>About The Show</strong><br>
Destination Linux is a weekly show where Ryan, Jill, and guests share their passion for Linux and Open Source. Destination Linux is a show for all experience levels, whether you’re a beginner to Linux and Open Source or a long time user, this is the podcast for you. Destination Linux covers a wide range of topics from the latest news, discussions on Linux and Open Source, Linux distributions, Linux applications, security, privacy, AI, gaming on Linux, and unique in-depth interviews with Linux developers and leaders and much more!</p>

<p>Destination Linux website<br>
<a href="https://deviantairwaves.com" rel="nofollow noopener">https://deviantairwaves.com</a></p>

<p>Become a Patron<br>
<a href="https://patreon.com/destinationlinux" rel="nofollow noopener">https://patreon.com/destinationlinux</a></p>

<p>Buy Me a Coffee<br>
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<p>Merch<br>
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<p>EFF x Destination Linux<br>
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<p>Sandfly Security<br>
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<p>00:00:00 Welcome to Destination Linux<br>
00:01:50 Community Feedback<br>
00:09:15 Sponsored by Sandfly Security<br>
00:10:31 Thanks to Our Supporters<br>
00:12:32 Hylki Email Client<br>
00:44:07 Orion Browser for Linux Discontinued<br>
00:50:38 Dutch Government Goes Nix<br>
00:58:34 Amazon Blocks Meta's AI From Store<br>
01:00:23 Closing Thoughts</p>

Linux #opensource #FOSS #podcast #security #privacy #AI #redhat #ubuntu #suse #opensuse #debian #SteamOS]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>In Destination Linux Episode 487, Ryan hosts an episode packed with open‑source news, community stories, and the triumphant return of <strong>Rocco</strong>, bringing that classic Big Daddy Linux energy back to the show for the second time in a single month.</p>

<p>We kick things off with heartfelt community feedback from O.C. Supertoner, followed by a lively discussion about AI‑generated code and whether Linux users should embrace or reject LLM‑assisted development. Rocco shares his thoughts on the new Hylki email client for GNOME and the growing debate around AI contributions in open‑source projects.</p>

<p>Zeb covers the end of the Orion browser for Linux and the implications of Kagi open‑sourcing its codebase. He also dives into the Netherlands’ bold move to adopt a Nix‑based government desktop after sanctions disrupted ICC access to Microsoft services, plus Amazon blocking Meta’s AI shopping agent.</p>

<p>It’s a fun, fast‑moving episode full of laughs, insights, and the open‑source passion that makes Destination Linux feel like home.</p>

<p><strong>About The Show</strong><br>
Destination Linux is a weekly show where Ryan, Jill, and guests share their passion for Linux and Open Source. Destination Linux is a show for all experience levels, whether you’re a beginner to Linux and Open Source or a long time user, this is the podcast for you. Destination Linux covers a wide range of topics from the latest news, discussions on Linux and Open Source, Linux distributions, Linux applications, security, privacy, AI, gaming on Linux, and unique in-depth interviews with Linux developers and leaders and much more!</p>

<p>Destination Linux website<br>
<a href="https://deviantairwaves.com" rel="nofollow noopener">https://deviantairwaves.com</a></p>

<p>Become a Patron<br>
<a href="https://patreon.com/destinationlinux" rel="nofollow noopener">https://patreon.com/destinationlinux</a></p>

<p>Buy Me a Coffee<br>
<a href="https://buymeacoffee.com/destinationlinux" rel="nofollow noopener">https://buymeacoffee.com/destinationlinux</a></p>

<p>Merch<br>
<a href="https://shop.deviantairwaves.com" rel="nofollow noopener">https://shop.deviantairwaves.com</a></p>

<p>EFF x Destination Linux<br>
<a href="https://eff.org/destinationlinux" rel="nofollow noopener">https://eff.org/destinationlinux</a></p>

<p>Sandfly Security<br>
<a href="https://sandfly.com/?utm_source=destinationlinux&amp;utm_medium=youtube&amp;utm_campaign=podcast&amp;utm_content=yt-description" rel="nofollow noopener">https://sandfly.com/?utm_source=destinationlinux&amp;utm_medium=youtube&amp;utm_campaign=podcast&amp;utm_content=yt-description</a></p>

<p>00:00:00 Welcome to Destination Linux<br>
00:01:50 Community Feedback<br>
00:09:15 Sponsored by Sandfly Security<br>
00:10:31 Thanks to Our Supporters<br>
00:12:32 Hylki Email Client<br>
00:44:07 Orion Browser for Linux Discontinued<br>
00:50:38 Dutch Government Goes Nix<br>
00:58:34 Amazon Blocks Meta's AI From Store<br>
01:00:23 Closing Thoughts</p>

Linux #opensource #FOSS #podcast #security #privacy #AI #redhat #ubuntu #suse #opensuse #debian #SteamOS]]>
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  <title>482: Destination Linux 482: Rocco Returns &amp; Red Hat’s Mike McGrath Sheds Light On Lightwell</title>
  <link>https://podcast.destinationlinux.org/482</link>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2026 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Deviant Airwaves</author>
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  <itunes:author>Deviant Airwaves</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>Rocco returns to Destination Linux for the first time since Episode 183, and we sit down with Red Hat VP Mike McGrath to talk about Lightwell, open source economics, predictable security, and the future of infrastructure. Plus Session chat updates, website security, and a lightning round you won’t want to miss.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:24:03</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://cdn.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/3/32f28071-0b08-4ea1-afcc-37af75bd83d6/cover.jpg?v=14"/>
  <description>&lt;p&gt;In Destination Linux Episode 482, Jill leads a very special show featuring the long‑awaited return of Rocco, one of the original hosts who helped build Destination Linux from the ground up. It’s been years since he last joined us, and we’re thrilled to have him back.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We also welcome Red Hat VP Mike McGrath for an in‑depth conversation about Lightwell - a new approach to simplifying modern infrastructure, improving predictability, and supporting open source ecosystems at scale. Mike shares insights on AI’s rapid rise, open source economics, partnerships with industry heavyweights, and how Lightwell helps developers, sysadmins, and researchers in real‑world environments.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Along the way, we cover Session chat updates, website security improvements, and reflect on the origins of Destination Linux with Rocco. We wrap with a fun lightning round.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Below are the full timestamps for this episode:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;00:00:00 Welcome to Destination Linux&lt;br&gt;
00:01:22 Community Feedback&lt;br&gt;
00:06:44 Sponsored by Sandfly Security&lt;br&gt;
00:08:14 Thanks to Our Supporters&lt;br&gt;
00:10:37 Session Chat and Website Security&lt;br&gt;
00:16:23 Rocco and the Origins of Destination Linux&lt;br&gt;
00:28:31 Meet Mike McGrath&lt;br&gt;
00:32:28 AI’s Rapid Rise&lt;br&gt;
00:41:00 Open Source Economics&lt;br&gt;
00:47:47 Introducing Lightwell&lt;br&gt;
00:49:55 Why Lightwell Exists&lt;br&gt;
00:53:15 Predictable Security at Scale&lt;br&gt;
00:56:59 Keeping It Simple for Developers&lt;br&gt;
01:00:43 Real-World Security Scenarios&lt;br&gt;
01:02:47 Palo Alto Networks Partnership&lt;br&gt;
01:05:47 What Lightwell Does&lt;br&gt;
01:09:58 Helping Researchers&lt;br&gt;
01:12:40 Getting Started with Lightwell&lt;br&gt;
01:13:45 Roadmap and New Ecosystems&lt;br&gt;
01:17:19 The Lightning Round&lt;br&gt;
01:21:57 Closing Thoughts&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Destination Linux is a weekly show where Ryan, Jill, and guests share their passion for Linux and Open Source. Destination Linux is a show for all experience levels, whether you’re a beginner to Linux and Open Source or a long time user, this is the podcast for you. Destination Linux covers a wide range of topics from the latest news, discussions on Linux and Open Source, Linux distributions, Linux applications, security, privacy, AI, gaming on Linux, and unique in-depth interviews with Linux developers and leaders and much more.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Destination Linux website&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Become a Patron&lt;br&gt;
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  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>In Destination Linux Episode 482, Jill leads a very special show featuring the long‑awaited return of Rocco, one of the original hosts who helped build Destination Linux from the ground up. It’s been years since he last joined us, and we’re thrilled to have him back.</p>

<p>We also welcome Red Hat VP Mike McGrath for an in‑depth conversation about Lightwell - a new approach to simplifying modern infrastructure, improving predictability, and supporting open source ecosystems at scale. Mike shares insights on AI’s rapid rise, open source economics, partnerships with industry heavyweights, and how Lightwell helps developers, sysadmins, and researchers in real‑world environments.</p>

<p>Along the way, we cover Session chat updates, website security improvements, and reflect on the origins of Destination Linux with Rocco. We wrap with a fun lightning round.</p>

<p>Below are the full timestamps for this episode:</p>

<p>00:00:00 Welcome to Destination Linux<br>
00:01:22 Community Feedback<br>
00:06:44 Sponsored by Sandfly Security<br>
00:08:14 Thanks to Our Supporters<br>
00:10:37 Session Chat and Website Security<br>
00:16:23 Rocco and the Origins of Destination Linux<br>
00:28:31 Meet Mike McGrath<br>
00:32:28 AI’s Rapid Rise<br>
00:41:00 Open Source Economics<br>
00:47:47 Introducing Lightwell<br>
00:49:55 Why Lightwell Exists<br>
00:53:15 Predictable Security at Scale<br>
00:56:59 Keeping It Simple for Developers<br>
01:00:43 Real-World Security Scenarios<br>
01:02:47 Palo Alto Networks Partnership<br>
01:05:47 What Lightwell Does<br>
01:09:58 Helping Researchers<br>
01:12:40 Getting Started with Lightwell<br>
01:13:45 Roadmap and New Ecosystems<br>
01:17:19 The Lightning Round<br>
01:21:57 Closing Thoughts</p>

<p>Destination Linux is a weekly show where Ryan, Jill, and guests share their passion for Linux and Open Source. Destination Linux is a show for all experience levels, whether you’re a beginner to Linux and Open Source or a long time user, this is the podcast for you. Destination Linux covers a wide range of topics from the latest news, discussions on Linux and Open Source, Linux distributions, Linux applications, security, privacy, AI, gaming on Linux, and unique in-depth interviews with Linux developers and leaders and much more.</p>

<p>Destination Linux website<br>
<a href="https://deviantairwaves.com" rel="nofollow noopener">https://deviantairwaves.com</a></p>

<p>Become a Patron<br>
<a href="https://patreon.com/destinationlinux" rel="nofollow noopener">https://patreon.com/destinationlinux</a></p>

<p>Buy Me a Coffee<br>
<a href="https://buymeacoffee.com/destinationlinux" rel="nofollow noopener">https://buymeacoffee.com/destinationlinux</a></p>

<p>Merch<br>
<a href="https://shop.deviantairwaves.com" rel="nofollow noopener">https://shop.deviantairwaves.com</a></p>

<p>EFF x Destination Linux<br>
<a href="https://eff.org/destinationlinux" rel="nofollow noopener">https://eff.org/destinationlinux</a></p>

<p>Sandfly Security<br>
<a href="https://sandfly.com/?utm_source=destinationlinux&amp;utm_medium=youtube&amp;utm_campaign=podcast&amp;utm_content=yt-description" rel="nofollow noopener">https://sandfly.com/?utm_source=destinationlinux&amp;utm_medium=youtube&amp;utm_campaign=podcast&amp;utm_content=yt-description</a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>In Destination Linux Episode 482, Jill leads a very special show featuring the long‑awaited return of Rocco, one of the original hosts who helped build Destination Linux from the ground up. It’s been years since he last joined us, and we’re thrilled to have him back.</p>

<p>We also welcome Red Hat VP Mike McGrath for an in‑depth conversation about Lightwell - a new approach to simplifying modern infrastructure, improving predictability, and supporting open source ecosystems at scale. Mike shares insights on AI’s rapid rise, open source economics, partnerships with industry heavyweights, and how Lightwell helps developers, sysadmins, and researchers in real‑world environments.</p>

<p>Along the way, we cover Session chat updates, website security improvements, and reflect on the origins of Destination Linux with Rocco. We wrap with a fun lightning round.</p>

<p>Below are the full timestamps for this episode:</p>

<p>00:00:00 Welcome to Destination Linux<br>
00:01:22 Community Feedback<br>
00:06:44 Sponsored by Sandfly Security<br>
00:08:14 Thanks to Our Supporters<br>
00:10:37 Session Chat and Website Security<br>
00:16:23 Rocco and the Origins of Destination Linux<br>
00:28:31 Meet Mike McGrath<br>
00:32:28 AI’s Rapid Rise<br>
00:41:00 Open Source Economics<br>
00:47:47 Introducing Lightwell<br>
00:49:55 Why Lightwell Exists<br>
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01:02:47 Palo Alto Networks Partnership<br>
01:05:47 What Lightwell Does<br>
01:09:58 Helping Researchers<br>
01:12:40 Getting Started with Lightwell<br>
01:13:45 Roadmap and New Ecosystems<br>
01:17:19 The Lightning Round<br>
01:21:57 Closing Thoughts</p>

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